Conversation 2 — NN's meeting with NCN Director Zbigniew Błocki — Tuesday 2 June 2020

Recording of a meeting between NN and NCN Director Zbigniew Błocki, held four days after a Friday meeting at which — according to NN's account during this conversation — she was instructed to tell Dr Witold Kilarski to withdraw his application from the NAWA programme. The conversation touches on Prof. Marcin Drąg, the GRIEG/OSF ranking lists and personnel decisions concerning NN. The description below stays close to the transcript and does not infer the participants' intentions.

TopicDescription
DateTuesday, 2 June 2020
ParticipantsNN and NCN Director Zbigniew Błocki (the user-supplied filename also indicates the presence of J. Weis). Speaker labels in the automatic transcript are not stable; the automatic labels may be inexact.
SourceUser recording; automatic text transcript.
Evidentiary significanceThe recording shows a connection between the expectation that Dr Witold Kilarski withdraw the NAWA application, the pressure placed on NN, and the announced employment consequences for her.
Recording 2 — 2 June 2020 (Tuesday)
NN and NCN Director Zbigniew Błocki · Source: user recording

Source note: the audio is a user recording; speaker labels in the automatic transcript ("speaker_0", "speaker_1" …) are not stable. Quotations are translated from the Polish transcript; the description does not infer participants' intentions.

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